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Special publisher's profile: Banking
Virginia's top banking officials on the economy, the banking industry and doing business in Virginia.

The major banks in Virginia are a driving force in the state’s economy and a major influence on the regions they serve. We recently interviewed four top banking officials in Virginia - James C. Cherry (Wachovia, N.A.); G.S. "Sandy" Fitz-Hugh (Virginia Bank of America); C.T. Hill (SunTrust Banks); Barry Fitzpatrick (First Virginia Bank); to find out their views on the economy, technology and the banking industry.

Topics:
Bank mergers
The economy
Technology
Interest rates
Community banks
Small business customers

Are you concerned about the U.S. economy slipping into a period of deflation? This scenario has hit Japan's economy for a decade. Why is the U.S. situation different?

James C. Cherry (CEO, Mid-Atlantic Bank, Wachovia, N.A.): Our outlook is that deflation is not likely. You may have some individual segments but the danger of deflation as a broad-based systemic issue is relatively small. The more likely scenario is that this year will be a little more of the same from last year. Most people started out last year hoping for a turnaround in the third or fourth quarter and we had a kind of a solid "ho-hum" feel for the year. This year really looks like the same forecast, looking toward the fourth quarter for a rebound.

Although it is interesting that our sense of feeling is built up by a relatively long period of exaggerated growth in the economy, some of which was even false growth, now as we look back in retrospect. So we may have to change our outlook on what we consider to be good economic growth. Three and half to four percent (growth) may feel sort of "ho-hum" and yet, maybe that's really a gangbuster. The consequence of these past highs is that you also have some corresponding lows that you are not prepared to deal with. The current moderate highs might mean that the lows will also not be so low.

I'm going to stay on the cautionary side and say that we don't see a chance of a double-dip recession. There is nothing going on right now that would lead us into a second recession. Of course, there are things that we cannot control, like a possible war with Iraq that could influence the economy. If it (a war) turns out to be pretty quick, it probably won't affect the economy, but if it turns out to be something long and drawn out, it probably would have an adverse affect. If that happened, I guess it would be called a double-dip but it's probably just a second one (recession) caused by many things going on externally.

Barry Fitzpatrick (Chairman, President, CEO, First Virginia Bank, N.A.): The economy having observed both their economy and their banking industry. And, while deflation has had a significant impact on Japan's economy for the last decade, there are many differences in both their economic policies and practices as well as their banking system that would make it difficult to use Japan's results as a measurement tool for the U.S.

The U.S. banking system is quite diverse and includes significant activity in the broad areas of consumer banking. This diversity, when combined with the intense regulatory oversight in the American system, provides both stabilizing and "stop gap" measures that have not been similarly utilized in Japan. As a result, while I think we need to be prepared for any economic change, I'm quite confident that the U.S. and its banking industry will be able to effectively address those changes.

There are so many pundits in the press and politics willing to explain exactly what the economic impact will be of either a war with Iraq or a continuing war on terrorism that, I believe, I would leave that speculation to them. However, the war on terrorism is extremely serious and at the same time of utmost importance. Make no mistake about it, there will be an effect on the U.S. economy, but in my opinion, it will be more than offset by the risk of continued, unbridled terrorist acts. I am confident that our government is taking the right steps to guide us through this dangerous time and, even more importantly, that the American people possess the strength of character to persevere.

G.S. "Sandy" Fitz-Hugh, (President, Virginia Bank of America): Everything we see - the economists we have in the bank - tell us that they don't feel deflation is a problem at this point. We've got certain segments of the business that are still very strong. Amazingly enough the automobile industry has been strong and the housing industry has been strong. There are other parts of the economy that are not, but overall we don't feel deflation is an eminent problem.

We're also not seeing a double-dip recession. We're seeing things bump along, probably not tremendous growth, but we do see some growth - GDP in the 2% range but not particularly strong. We're seeing some good signs in the technology business which has not looked good over the last two or three years. A pick-up in chips sales which is a good sign. One of the things we're going to see in the computer business is cycle buying. Like cars, we are going to see people replacing their computer every two or three years for their businesses as well as for their personal use. That cycle has been down for the last couple of years and we'll now see a comeback of pent-up demand.

C.T. Hill (Chairman, CEO, SunTrust Banks, Inc.): I noticed in your February issue you mentioned a Japanese (economic) comparison. But we currently have economic growth, we had economic growth all last year, we had it in the fourth quarter of last year and we are having it through the month of January. It may not be robust, but it is still an expansion, so from a deflationary standpoint we don't see any signs that we are going to go there. In regard to (drawing a comparison to) the Japanese economy, if you take a look at the strength and diversity of the U.S. economy across lots of sectors, we have more diversity and more overall strength. And even with our stock market today, being down from its high of eleven thousand, it's nothing like they are experiencing in the Japanese economy.

We don't see a double-dip coming. We think the thing that is getting in the way right now is the war. In dealing with our customers on the commercial side there are people who are talking about doing plant expansions or adding equipment. At this point they are just waiting. People will just not bet into the prospect of going to war.

Now, the real question is can we compare this war, if we go to war, to the Gulf War in 1991? If we can, it would be good. If you take the time frame under which that war was fought, and it was pretty crisp, we should start to see the economy rolling by the last part of this year. You will see some pent-up demands in the marketplace.

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